7 to 100: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly of Scaling a Business from $7M to $100M
Hosted by 2 Inc 5000 founders and marketing experts, Tim Warren and Paul DeMott, this podcast is your ultimate resource for watching a company scale in real time, no highlight reel required. We're building Helium from $7 million to $100 million, out loud. No-BS, data-obsessed, "give me a metric or give me silence." We're talking objections, close rates, funnel math, sales scripts, ad spend, and every ugly mistake in between.
Follow along. We're figuring it out in front of you.
Tim opens with a story about Hormozi discovering that even people who follow him closely, and who walked right past a billboard he paid for, had no idea about his book launch, driving home the point that no matter how much you advertise, most people still don’t know who you are. That leads into a deeper leadership conversation: borrowing Hormozi’s two-question test for true competence (what metrics do you use to measure your own performance, and how does what you do daily move those metrics), Tim argues most people, even good employees, can’t actually answer that clearly, and that closing that gap is key to unlocking more profitability company-wide.
The episode ends with real financial modeling: what a genuinely profitable agency’s net margin should look like (30%+), what would need to be cut to get there, and why ad-based programs are structurally easier to scale profitably than SEO, since SEO’s complexity and slower payoff make it a harder product to build a scalable, high-margin business around.
Tim breaks down the real math behind their new goal of 20 monthly sales: at their current close rate, that means roughly 40 proposals a month, which means the team needs airtight tracking on every second meeting, no-show, and cancellation, since untracked meetings quietly hide the true funnel numbers. Paul walks through the sales dashboard live, showing how proposal and no-show data is currently underreported by the team, and the fix: getting reps to mark every outcome so leadership can actually see what’s working.
The back half tackles a budget reallocation question: should they pull dollars out of Google paid search and put more into organic SEO and link building, especially since their own Ahrefs traffic has become a genuine closing tool, showing prospects real proof that Helium outperforms their current agency, right there on the call.
Tim walks through a live pricing decision from a proposal call: whether to start a hesitant prospect at a lower package price to get the deal signed faster, versus pitching a higher tier while the buyer is emotionally engaged, and why timing in the conversation should decide which play to use.
The bigger theme of the episode is aggressive betting: with a working ad channel (Meta) and clear math on what it takes to hit their lead and close-rate goals, Tim makes the case for pushing budgets hard right now rather than waiting for more certainty, borrowing framing from Hormozi’s philosophy that “we don’t win or lose, we either win or learn,” and that the biggest risk is sitting on cash instead of testing what works while a strategy is clearly paying off.
Tim shares a framework from entrepreneur Ryan Deiss that reframes how they think about scaling: every company really only has two core processes, an acquisition workflow (how you get new clients) and a fulfillment workflow (how you deliver the work), and most businesses get this backwards by hiring people first and trying to build systems around them afterward. The takeaway hits home for Helium specifically as they build out their new simplified packages: map the entire workflow and refine it before adding more headcount, so the system can eventually run without founders sitting inside every single step.
The episode ends with a concrete goal, selling 20 of the new packages a month, and a plan to map out the exact process needed to hit that number.
Inspired by a video from entrepreneur Ryan Deiss, Tim breaks down the difference between founders who scale past $7-10M and those who stay stuck at that level: stuck founders hire “helpers” to do the work, while scaling founders build out the system first and hire people to fill defined roles inside it.
The conversation turns practical: should they stop selling smaller, highly customized packages that have historically been great clients, in favor of pushing two simplified, more profitable packages (Altitude and Ignite) that are easier to execute and scale?
Most business podcasts show you the highlight reel. This one shows you the actual film. Every day, we hit record on our real sales and marketing stand-up, the same meeting where we’re deciding what’s working, what’s dying, and what needs to change right now. No scripts. No polish. No pretending we’ve got it figured out.
Hosted by 2 Inc 5000 founders and marketing experts, Tim Warren and Paul DeMott, this podcast is your ultimate resource for watching a company scale in real time, no highlight reel required. We’re building Helium from $7 million to $100 million, out loud. No-BS, data-obsessed, “give me a metric or give me silence.” We’re talking objections, close rates, funnel math, sales scripts, ad spend, and every ugly mistake in between. If you’ve ever wondered what actually happens behind the curtain of a company trying to 10x itself, the wins, the losses, the “wait, why did that not work” moments, this is that show.
Follow along. We’re figuring it out in front of you.
It' All Just Marketing
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Are you ready to unravel the secrets of modern marketing and elevate your business strategies to new heights? Welcome to “It’s All Just Marketing,” the podcast that takes you on a captivating journey through the dynamic world of marketing. Join us as we dive deep into the ever-evolving landscape of marketing, where creativity, data-driven insights, and technological innovation converge. Hosted by 2 Inc 5000 founders and marketing experts, Tim Warren and Paul DeMott, this podcast is your ultimate resource for staying ahead in the rapidly changing realm of consumer engagement.
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